Received: from smtpin-3304.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.162) by storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:42:52 -0800 Received: from meredith.dementia.org (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]) by smtpin-3304.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 7C8B672C77; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 14:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from meredith.dementia.org (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]) by meredith.dementia.org (8.13.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id p11IMYVe014253; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:22:34 -0500 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list milwaukee-electric); Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:22:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by meredith.dementia.org (8.13.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id p11IMXU0014246 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:22:33 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1296584553; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=Z/ZVkVSlnYEmcoe9VHE7Blrn0u4=; b=nzUkZ3Rc3yWCIqyLpt+Q1BC0TTUm3qIsLswqoF5nK/IRAz6qmLz5JIoDvLd1A+Ax 10qYcVjFYbooFzsLsGV+79m23KxXu/+W+qZZ460laW9ZdsFihUN5/uKEhkXLQB8T; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=ZcMd8iLGbVgZ6+VNm+Yd4gtJeUXK0KCpVzwqTuaJqqs= c=1 sm=0 a=xX1Mu_Z27QIA:10 a=tsguzRl7KDRodKU7C21OOg==:17 a=hnGMOUBTAAAA:8 a=28zexAvQAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=F4IhQE3gGwj18VzFwl8A:9 a=8DOlk7miIiX4TLj8Cl4A:7 a=pf8STgT9XJyPmKsZljncLwqZC6UA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=HUIUdC8JSw8A:10 a=mDROpww1DRMcbXo-PpUA:9 a=3lgECvLHQLPVw27ohfW8XPtMDwQA:4 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=qqwW1PKlCMt7Y43f:18 a=tsguzRl7KDRodKU7C21OOg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp01.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ktjosephson@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [69.69.90.79] ([69.69.90.79:10110] helo=KTJosephson) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPA id 68/DE-14181-46F484D4; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:22:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ken and Tracie" To: References: <20808-4D483FDA-5652@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: City Car 825 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:22:30 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6rc1 (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]); Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:22:36 -0500 (EST) X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6rc1 (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]); Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:22:34 -0500 (EST) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-archive-position: 581 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: milwaukee-electric-bounce@lists.dementia.org Errors-To: milwaukee-electric-bounce@lists.dementia.org X-original-sender: ktjosephson@embarqmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: milwaukee-electric@lists.dementia.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: milwaukee-electric X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (***) FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive Here's a shot of the 1111-1214 trip. K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don L. Leistikow" To: Cc: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 9:16 AM Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: City Car 825 > Ken and list: Several clues may be drawn that contribute to the general > date and location. > > I see only one wire.... fresh ballast..... and ascending ground > indicating a cut'. Car 825 doesn't have a Square Route Sign box.so, I > conclude that the year is 1926 and the location is just north of > Greenfield Avenue Furthermore, I suggest that this is the same > location where one or more of the 1111 - 1214 Inspection Trip series of > photos were taken. > > Route Sign boxes on City Cars, were introduced in 1927. > > The 825 may well be on a feasability trip, to determine if City Cars > could operate the Local Service on the LRT, when in service along with > the High Speed 1100's. > > It was not until 1931, that three of the Milwaukee Northern cars were > shopped and reconfigured for double end operation, with folding doors > and walkover seats These became cars 1102, 1103 and 1104. > > > Of special note is that the 1103 had been Milwaukee Northern's 51 and > previous to that it was Gary Railways 401 and had originally been built > for the Chicago New York Air Line as their 102. > > Don L. > > -- Attached file removed by Ecartis and put at URL below -- -- Type: image/jpeg -- Size: 99k (101628 bytes) -- URL : http://lists.dementia.org/files/milwaukee-electric/tmbw0042.jpg