Received: from smtpin-3303.bay.webtv.net (209.240.205.161) by storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:44:02 -0800 Received: from meredith.dementia.org (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]) by smtpin-3303.bay.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix+sws) with ESMTP id 3B5124333D; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:43:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from meredith.dementia.org (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]) by meredith.dementia.org (8.13.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id p11IhGC7014946; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:43:16 -0500 Received: with ECARTIS (v1.0.0; list milwaukee-electric); Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:43:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com [208.47.184.3]) by meredith.dementia.org (8.13.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id p11IhFpd014939 for ; Tue, 1 Feb 2011 13:43:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=embarqmail.com; s=s012408; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@embarqmail.com; t=1296585794; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=olprUk1h9NyBO3ZZO9bpFsqwFCg=; b=kTzDUWyFeYYXAteYaxmzBWSuzV5J3hJAqvDBcArY/nh8JwfGnj2r4b67IZxHrLPw +2Fkml0W36oXTF0PXX8WRXTcsH60Gbw+xXCI2rPgUqPIpY7OAvn0qzzBARAx1iDZ; X-BINDING: X-Spam-Rating: None X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Ci70QApcDEwHt9DkacCKwHlai2SIDw3GtMSmHrUdTqc= c=1 sm=0 a=xX1Mu_Z27QIA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=tsguzRl7KDRodKU7C21OOg==:17 a=CjxXgO3LAAAA:8 a=28zexAvQAAAA:8 a=hnGMOUBTAAAA:8 a=ayC55rCoAAAA:8 a=HB9-J_X3zB1jdqVsMesA:9 a=vsam9zlvPkaejEIYIYoA:7 a=9gsJOwrO6gWUYGS491T5b7bpkRYA:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rC2wZJ5BpNYA:10 a=HUIUdC8JSw8A:10 a=tsguzRl7KDRodKU7C21OOg==:117 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.42 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Authentication-Results: smtp04.embarq.synacor.com smtp.user=ktjosephson@embarqmail.com; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [69.69.90.79] ([69.69.90.79:10184] helo=KTJosephson) by mailrelay.embarq.synacor.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.40 r(29895/29896)) with ESMTPA id B8/14-14748-244584D4; Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:43:14 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Ken and Tracie" To: References: <906889.45452.qm@web120719.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: City Car 825 Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2011 10:43:17 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5931 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5994 X-Spam-Score: 3.2 (***) FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6rc1 (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]); Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:43:17 -0500 (EST) X-Greylist: Sender is SPF-compliant, not delayed by milter-greylist-1.6rc1 (meredith.dementia.org [128.2.235.26]); Tue, 01 Feb 2011 13:43:15 -0500 (EST) X-archive-position: 583 X-ecartis-version: Ecartis v1.0.0 Sender: milwaukee-electric-bounce@lists.dementia.org Errors-To: milwaukee-electric-bounce@lists.dementia.org X-original-sender: ktjosephson@embarqmail.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: milwaukee-electric@lists.dementia.org List-help: List-unsubscribe: List-software: Ecartis version 1.0.0 List-Id: X-List-ID: List-subscribe: List-owner: List-post: List-archive: X-list: milwaukee-electric X-Brightmail: Message tested, results are inconclusive One of the histories of TM indicated that the 600s used as local Rapid Transit cars were painted in interurban colors and used interurban headlights and markers. K. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Greig" To: Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:18 AM Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: City Car 825 > Are there any other known instances (besides this picture and the Lakeside > shuttle cars) where a Milwaukee city car was fitted with a hang-on > interurban headlight? > --- On Tue, 2/1/11, Don L. Leistikow wrote: > > From: Don L. Leistikow > Subject: [milwaukee-electric] Re: City Car 825 > To: milwaukee-electric@lists.dementia.org > Cc: emory1522@wi.rr.com > Date: Tuesday, February 1, 2011, 11:16 AM > > Ken and list: Several clues may be drawn that contribute to the general > date and location. > > I see only one wire.... fresh ballast..... and ascending ground > indicating a cut'. Car 825 doesn't have a Square Route Sign box.so, I > conclude that the year is 1926 and the location is just north of > Greenfield Avenue Furthermore, I suggest that this is the same > location where one or more of the 1111 - 1214 Inspection Trip series of > photos were taken. > > Route Sign boxes on City Cars, were introduced in 1927. > > The 825 may well be on a feasability trip, to determine if City Cars > could operate the Local Service on the LRT, when in service along with > the High Speed 1100's. > > It was not until 1931, that three of the Milwaukee Northern cars were > shopped and reconfigured for double end operation, with folding doors > and walkover seats These became cars 1102, 1103 and 1104. > > > Of special note is that the 1103 had been Milwaukee Northern's 51 and > previous to that it was Gary Railways 401 and had originally been built > for the Chicago New York Air Line as their 102. > > Don L. > > > >