On May 7, 2008, at 2:35 PM, Phillip Clark Campbell wrote: > Hi Mr.Swindler! > > > 3756 is single end and they didn't get a DE low-floor til much > later did they? Besides, Pittsburgh Railways was mostly SE - DE > equipment was sort of unusual wasn't it. > > I think I have seen this topic in the archives haven't I. > > Phil > > > > > ----- Original Message ---- >> From: John Swindler >> To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org >> Sent: Wednesday, May 7, 2008 5:38:05 AM >> Subject: [PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST >> >> Hi Herb >> >> Perhaps it was not a favorite car series with someone with deep >> pockets? And it >> was a single end car. >> >> If that was a consideration, and I would not be surprised if that >> was (maybe we >> need to ask Art Ellis) it is remarkable that 1138 was saved. But >> with 1138, it >> might have been viewed as an opportunity to save a PCC before a >> public authority >> took over. And PRC, at that point, might have been willing to give >> PTM/PRMA/PERC the benefit of the doubt and quote an attractive >> price. Just >> guessing. >> >> I was surprised at how few the membership was in the 1950s. At >> that time, the >> museum concept was in competition with those who's focus was >> taking pictures of >> fantrip cars. As others have said, just be thankful for what did >> get saved. >> >> Suspect there was too much scrap value in a 3800 and WP 700s to be >> affordable. >> After all, wasn't the typical wage then around a buck an hour, or >> about $2,000 >> per year??? >> Even 3756 barely made it to Arden. Wasn't it a last minute >> acquisition by an >> individual??? >> >> There is a lot of speculation above that others more knowledgeable >> should >> comment on. >> >> John> Date: Tue, 6 May 2008 22:28:35 -0700> From: >> hrbran@sbcglobal.net> Subject: >> [PRCo] Re: 3800 Series LOST> To: pittsburgh-railways@dementia.org> >> > So how does >> this explain why PTM did not save a 3800 ??????> Fred Schneider >> wrote: It would cost money to buy, money to move, it >> doesn't fit in > everyone's back yard, and the neighbors don't >> particularly like >> such > toys in your back yard.> > About 25 years ago Dave Hamley >> was projecting >> slides for my > edification and enjoyment. Several of them showed >> a gasoline > >> locomotive he once had stored in his garage in a nice suburban > >> neighborhood >> outside of Pittsburgh. He had rolled it out into the > driveway >> for the picture. >> In the background was a neighbor dressed > in a white shirt. Dave >> proceeded to >> tell how he cranked up the > engine. When the engine fired, all of >> the water >> that had > accumulated in the exhaust system came up the stack. It >> washed the > >> dirt out of the muffler and stack. The neighbor's! >> white shirt was > no longer white.. It was never again white. >> There was no >> bleach on > the market that could possibly make it white. That >> should give > >> insights into why your neighbor might not want any large steel > >> objects in your >> yard.> > In my township such objects are simply forbidden by >> ordinance. We > are >> note even permitted to work on our automobiles in our driveways > >> because of one >> guy who collected too many cars.> > > On May 6, 2008, at 5:54 PM, >> Jerry Matt >> Matsick wrote:> > > Content-Type: text/plain> > Content-Transfer- >> Encoding: 8bit> >>> Herb> > Good Buddy Mark and I often talk about the reason a 3800 >>> series car > >>> was> > not saved? I remember them quite well in the late 40s and >>> early > > 50s >> on the> > Charleroi Interurban route! A Beautiful Car!> >> > --> > >> From the >> River City by the Sea!> > Jerry "Matt" Matsick> > "Jacksonville"> >> >> >> > >> -------------- Original message from Herb Brannon > > > >> ---------------------------------> : --------------> >> >> >> Since! >> we are on the topic of "saved" PRCo cars.......> >> Why was a >> 3800 se >> ries interurban never saved?? They were around > >> until 1950. >> It> >> seems >> someone would have tried to get one off the scrap pile.> >> Fred >> Schneider >> wrote:> >> PST 14 and 78 were not operational. The other revenue >> fleet was> >> >> marked in service but not everything was run. Of course that> >> >> excludes 4398, >> and Pittsburgh 1100 series PCC and a whole lot of> >> stuff in the >> Blimp Hanger >> which is not in the revenue fleet.> >>> >> On May 6, 2008, at 9:33 >> AM, Jerry >> Matt Matsick wrote:> >>> >>> Mark M and myself wonder what "cars" >> actually were >> operational this> >>> past weekend? Both of us would have given >> anything to be >> there as> >>> it looked like a fantastic time.> >>> -- > >>> From >> the River City >> by the Sea!> >>> Jerry "Matt" Matsick> >>> "Jacksonville"> >>>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>> Herb Brannon> >>> >> Greetings From America's North Coast> >>>>>>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- Attached file >> removed by Ecartis and put at URL below --> > ! >> -- Type: image/jpeg> > -- Size: 92k (94795 bytes)> > -- URL : >> http://lists.dementia.org/files/pittsburgh-railways/3800% > > >> 20south%20of%20Charleroi.jpg> >> >> >> > > > > > Herb Brannon> > >> Greetings From >> America's North Coast> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> _________________________________________________________________ >> Make Windows Vista more reliable and secure with Windows Vista >> Service Pack 1. >> http://www.windowsvista.com/SP1?WT.mc_id=hotmailvistasp1banner > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! 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